Haven't thought to try it honestly. I assume it would read as less potent, since essence dissipates much like heat. It's why I've asked samples be deposited inside directly rather than given to me in a vial.
It wouldn't give the same regulation effects, but now you've got me curious. Are you available to assist in this experiment? I've been meaning to try something unrelated as well regarding my essence and your Crest. Seems a good time to try it as any.
I'm generally not interested in my own essence, but you bring up an excellent point.
Swing by my suite - I had a lab installed here so it'd be more convenient than moving everything around. I don't imagine it will take longer than 2 hours, but you are free to nap here in my suite if you want. I hardly use my bedroom anyway.
[he's usually sleeping on the couch or right in his lab because he's the same as linhardt with disordered sleeping due to being so consumed with his research. it's just that he doesn't schedule naps, his body just decides when it wants to rest for him.
if linhardt accepts, this will make him the first guest ever he's invited to his suite... barring olivine, of course, who is practically a roommate at this point. and who is likely still around in his art studio, doing whatever it is he does in there. rei has a brief thought that this moment is probably profound and important... but alas, he just quickly tunes back into the Science Frequency.]
I want to see if injecting my own essence has any effect on whether your Crest activates or not. The basic theory is a higher supply of magical energy for your Crest to pull from may fulfill a condition for it to trigger.
aaaw, Rei! And of course Lin doesn't know it's a big deal so he just shrugs
Understanding your tools and their limitations is as important as understanding what one hopes to study.
Thank you. Is that a one time invitation or a standing one? Apparently, I'm something called 'narcoleptic' because I'd rather sleep in public than in the pit they've assigned me for a room.
We can test that theory, but the work I've done in Fodlan suggests that isn't the case. It's not known where Crests get their energy from, but it isn't the people around the Crest-bearers. The leading theories are that the energy is either spontaneously generated or that the Crest pulls from the life energy of its bearer. It would draw from my essence, not yours.
maybe one day lin will realize how Special he is hehe... and continue to not care
[rei thinks about it for a second. he's lived a long time - long enough to know fairly well when intentions are true and genuine. he hasn't been wrong in quite a while, so... he's fairly certain, despite only knowing him for a scant few months, linhardt only needs two things: science and sleep.
he decides, in the end, to trust his own instinct and objective observations.]
Sure. I can add you as an authorized guest to my suite. Come by whenever you want to sleep or run an experiment. You don't have to let me know beforehand. I'm no professional, but pretty sure just having a preference for sleeping somewhere more comfortable doesn't amount to a condition.
Hm, all right. Then let's run the test regarding your question first. That could take a fair bit time depending on how efficiently we can get my semen inside myself. Though I did create a prototype instrument for a similar purpose that I could use. I'll figure it out before you get here.
Anyway my suite is [INSERT SUITE.] I've programmed this message to self-delete a few minutes after you open it..
Cares NOT at all. "Special" means "Weird", right? That's fine.
I appreciate that. It means I will have to expend less effort to comment on your work. I also enjoy sleeping on beds that are not made of rock. I am glad that you continue to prove yourself a reasonable person - I agree that such a preference does not constitute a disease.
We can come up with a solution. Actually, I have another question: What happens if you...is imbibe the correct terminology? Intake? Ingest? two people's fluids at once, can you tell the difference? We should also try teleporting fluids into you and see if that makes a difference - is a sexual act necessary? (If you know the answers to these questions, then we can, of course, dispense with those experiments and use our time for other questions.)
Can we do that? Erase messages?
honestly that's better... rei wouldn't know what to do w/ ppl who make a big deal of it
Yeah, having you close to run theories by when you aren't asleep would be highly convenient for me. So you're free to come and go as you please. And you know, that's the first time anyone's considered me to be "reasonable."
I can indeed read each essence signature individually, though not as clearly as fucking them separately rather than together. Some of the properties get muddied and blur together in a sense. As for teleporting the fluids, that is very interesting. If you have the capabilities to do that, I'd be interested in trying it. I don't think sex will be necessary for this purpose. At most I'll just have to get myself off.
Yes. [though of course he's new to tech, so there may be a way to recover the messages... like the recycle bin on windows.] I don't need my "admirers" knocking at my door for whatever reason. So this is just a precaution. [the mob of people who tend to follow around the royal ranks...]
Thank you, it is appreciated. I will ensure that nobody follows me or uses my presence as an excuse to intrude upon your privacy.
I think that you are very reasonable. I know what motivates you and you act accordingly. You are honest about your motives and respond well to straight forward communication, indicating you understand that the point of communication is to communicate.
[ As opposed to people who say one thing but mean another. That is counter to the purpose of talking. ]
I believe I would be able to do such a thing. It would be worth trying. I wonder, with regards to the multiple people, if the proportions of said fluids matter. I also wonder how many people can mix their fluids before things become too muddled. How sensitive is your internal essence sensory organ and how does it compare to other magical senses?
That is understandable. Perhaps we could learn to move your suite. As that odd place J runs moves. Then nobody would bother you.
this is why rei can't help but like lin. he feels so Seen.
And I appreciate your cautiousness in turn. We should definitely look into the moving locations, though. It would be useful for me, yeah, but ultimately I'm interested in how it works in the first place, whether it can apply to my suite or not.
Hah, you'd think people would understand the importance of efficient communication, but they seem to prefer to appeal to emotions instead. Such a waste of time and effort.
I admit, I've never been able to control the amount people have deposited inside me. Usually it's whatever I get. But in this environment, measuring out exact quantities is much more possible. At least, I don't have to hide my intentions. And people tend to have much more powerful essence here, so the data would be more accurate anyway. We can test it out later to figure out the proportions for that tipping point.
I'd say it's the most accurate when it comes to sensing essence, at least for Klein natives. 100% accuracy for fluid from one man, and I'd estimate about 75% for fluid from two. Taste is the second most accurate, followed by smell. But essence scent can be easily masked, if that tells you anything about the accuracy of smell as a gauge for essence.
I do not want to share the bed and I dislike many people. It is in my interests to be cautious. I too wonder how that magic functions: Does it stretch space? How does it determine 'where' the physical dimensions can be?
People are very inefficient - I know I am in some ways as well. I believe other people would vex me less if they could admit to the subjectivity of their own preferences.
I have another question: You mention 75% and 100% accuracy. How can that be known? Do you have an objective benchmark?
Yeah, and how much energy does it expend? If at all? Is it a similar magic used to teleport everyone from their worlds to this resort? I would ask J but I'm sure he's just going to give me bullshit answers that don't answer anything.
Hah, getting people to even see that very subjectivity is even asking for too much. They're too wrapped up in their own emotions.
Though speaking of inefficiency, when you get here, I only ask that you don't touch anything of mine scattered about. Nothing should be moved even the slightest bit. Consider it an eccentricity of mine.
[though perhaps somewhat fortunately, his mess isn't in his bedroom since he's hardly ever there, and is more spread out in this space than in his old cabin in the woods since there's much more room. the price to pay to sleep on his comfy bed...]
Yes, at least for my purposes. There are several properties I look for when reading essence signatures with my body after decades of essence research. I have never not been able to read these properties unless someone is deliberating withholding their essence from me - or, as said earlier, I'm fucking multiple people.
People like that are very vexing. I understand the joys in annoying people, but I dislike when somebody is annoying me. I know it is hypocritical, but knowledge sharing should not be treated as an avenue for annoying people. It makes it difficult to trust answers - even if J did tell us the truth, would we believe it?
If we can determine the relations between the constants of my magic and that of the magic here, then we might be able to determine the amount of energy used and the relation to the House's abduction methods. I also wonder where the energy comes from - I could not teleport an entire space as it would require too much of my energy. Could it be a multi-stage teleportation process? Someone else talked about time magic - perhaps the location is frozen in time and then teleported in pieces.
I understand. I will not touch your items and I will leave your suite as I found it.
[ Rei's request is reasonable enough and while Linhardt does like exploring, he also likes not being kicked out of the room with the good bed and he has some self-control. Besides, he hates when people touch his things too. He leaves them like that for a reason... ]
Deliberately withholding in what manner? Sexually withholding, or is it possible to withhold one's essence from you even if you're engaging in erotic activities? Could I block you from sensing my essence?
No, I get it. I also find some enjoyment in it sometimes. But people like J are an entirely different kind of irritating. Maybe it is because of the deliberate withholding of information. Maybe it's the way he reminds me of someone back home equally as obnoxious. Either way, we're not going to learn anything from him.
So yeah, let's start there. Between the two of us I'm sure we can get a working theory going at the very least, especially since you already practice teleportation magic. I do have a separate theory on where this place gets its energy. I'd rather run it by you in person. [he is a deeply paranoid person, if linhardt can't tell by now.]
Thanks.
The latter. It's very possible to withhold one's essence in one's bodily fluids. I haven't experienced this with anyone not from Klein, but I don't see why you couldn't, especially with your expertise in magic.
We're not going to learn anything from him purposefully or directly. We can still draw conclusions from his actions. I do agree that his words are going to be useless - I believe, upon thinking about it, that what I find most vexing is that he is one of those people who knows things and thinks that keeping said knowledge to himself makes him special. People like him are why people like us are not taken at face value and why people assume we are also playing their insipid social games.
I would be happy to show you how warp magic works if there are theories you want to test. And I would like to hear your theory. I understand that sometimes theories only make sense if you talk them out with another person - writing adds an additional layer of complexity and abstraction.
[ Linhardt would swear until his dying day that he does not participate in 'insipid social games', but he does. And one such way he is doing so is that if these messages are being read, they are now meeting in person due to logistic preferences, not due to a desire to conspire. The deniability is plausible. ]
I see. I'd like to practice that: Withholding information about my essence. Do you know if it would be possible to fake essence information? For example, could I convince you I was Olivine? Assuming blindfolding and steps were taken to ensure that other senses wouldn't give away the deception, of course.
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Haven't thought to try it honestly. I assume it would read as less potent, since essence dissipates much like heat. It's why I've asked samples be deposited inside directly rather than given to me in a vial.
It wouldn't give the same regulation effects, but now you've got me curious. Are you available to assist in this experiment? I've been meaning to try something unrelated as well regarding my essence and your Crest. Seems a good time to try it as any.
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I'm available unless it's going to take more than 2 hours. I need a nap soon.
What do you want to try? If you tell me, I can consider variables on my way or tell you if your idea is bad.
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Swing by my suite - I had a lab installed here so it'd be more convenient than moving everything around. I don't imagine it will take longer than 2 hours, but you are free to nap here in my suite if you want. I hardly use my bedroom anyway.
[he's usually sleeping on the couch or right in his lab because he's the same as linhardt with disordered sleeping due to being so consumed with his research. it's just that he doesn't schedule naps, his body just decides when it wants to rest for him.
if linhardt accepts, this will make him the first guest ever he's invited to his suite... barring olivine, of course, who is practically a roommate at this point. and who is likely still around in his art studio, doing whatever it is he does in there. rei has a brief thought that this moment is probably profound and important... but alas, he just quickly tunes back into the Science Frequency.]
I want to see if injecting my own essence has any effect on whether your Crest activates or not. The basic theory is a higher supply of magical energy for your Crest to pull from may fulfill a condition for it to trigger.
aaaw, Rei! And of course Lin doesn't know it's a big deal so he just shrugs
Thank you. Is that a one time invitation or a standing one? Apparently, I'm something called 'narcoleptic' because I'd rather sleep in public than in the pit they've assigned me for a room.
We can test that theory, but the work I've done in Fodlan suggests that isn't the case. It's not known where Crests get their energy from, but it isn't the people around the Crest-bearers. The leading theories are that the energy is either spontaneously generated or that the Crest pulls from the life energy of its bearer. It would draw from my essence, not yours.
maybe one day lin will realize how Special he is hehe... and continue to not care
he decides, in the end, to trust his own instinct and objective observations.]
Sure. I can add you as an authorized guest to my suite. Come by whenever you want to sleep or run an experiment. You don't have to let me know beforehand. I'm no professional, but pretty sure just having a preference for sleeping somewhere more comfortable doesn't amount to a condition.
Hm, all right. Then let's run the test regarding your question first. That could take a fair bit time depending on how efficiently we can get my semen inside myself. Though I did create a prototype instrument for a similar purpose that I could use. I'll figure it out before you get here.
Anyway my suite is [INSERT SUITE.] I've programmed this message to self-delete a few minutes after you open it..
Cares NOT at all. "Special" means "Weird", right? That's fine.
We can come up with a solution. Actually, I have another question: What happens if you...is imbibe the correct terminology? Intake? Ingest? two people's fluids at once, can you tell the difference? We should also try teleporting fluids into you and see if that makes a difference - is a sexual act necessary? (If you know the answers to these questions, then we can, of course, dispense with those experiments and use our time for other questions.)
Can we do that? Erase messages?
honestly that's better... rei wouldn't know what to do w/ ppl who make a big deal of it
I can indeed read each essence signature individually, though not as clearly as fucking them separately rather than together. Some of the properties get muddied and blur together in a sense. As for teleporting the fluids, that is very interesting. If you have the capabilities to do that, I'd be interested in trying it. I don't think sex will be necessary for this purpose. At most I'll just have to get myself off.
Yes. [though of course he's new to tech, so there may be a way to recover the messages... like the recycle bin on windows.] I don't need my "admirers" knocking at my door for whatever reason. So this is just a precaution. [the mob of people who tend to follow around the royal ranks...]
Lin like: Throw them out! :D
I think that you are very reasonable. I know what motivates you and you act accordingly. You are honest about your motives and respond well to straight forward communication, indicating you understand that the point of communication is to communicate.
[ As opposed to people who say one thing but mean another. That is counter to the purpose of talking. ]
I believe I would be able to do such a thing. It would be worth trying. I wonder, with regards to the multiple people, if the proportions of said fluids matter. I also wonder how many people can mix their fluids before things become too muddled. How sensitive is your internal essence sensory organ and how does it compare to other magical senses?
That is understandable. Perhaps we could learn to move your suite. As that odd place J runs moves. Then nobody would bother you.
this is why rei can't help but like lin. he feels so Seen.
Hah, you'd think people would understand the importance of efficient communication, but they seem to prefer to appeal to emotions instead. Such a waste of time and effort.
I admit, I've never been able to control the amount people have deposited inside me. Usually it's whatever I get. But in this environment, measuring out exact quantities is much more possible. At least, I don't have to hide my intentions. And people tend to have much more powerful essence here, so the data would be more accurate anyway. We can test it out later to figure out the proportions for that tipping point.
I'd say it's the most accurate when it comes to sensing essence, at least for Klein natives. 100% accuracy for fluid from one man, and I'd estimate about 75% for fluid from two. Taste is the second most accurate, followed by smell. But essence scent can be easily masked, if that tells you anything about the accuracy of smell as a gauge for essence.
But in a low-key, chill way
People are very inefficient - I know I am in some ways as well. I believe other people would vex me less if they could admit to the subjectivity of their own preferences.
I have another question: You mention 75% and 100% accuracy. How can that be known? Do you have an objective benchmark?
in a science nerd way...just bros doing a science
Hah, getting people to even see that very subjectivity is even asking for too much. They're too wrapped up in their own emotions.
Though speaking of inefficiency, when you get here, I only ask that you don't touch anything of mine scattered about. Nothing should be moved even the slightest bit. Consider it an eccentricity of mine.
[though perhaps somewhat fortunately, his mess isn't in his bedroom since he's hardly ever there, and is more spread out in this space than in his old cabin in the woods since there's much more room. the price to pay to sleep on his comfy bed...]
Yes, at least for my purposes. There are several properties I look for when reading essence signatures with my body after decades of essence research. I have never not been able to read these properties unless someone is deliberating withholding their essence from me - or, as said earlier, I'm fucking multiple people.
What else is there?! Only science
If we can determine the relations between the constants of my magic and that of the magic here, then we might be able to determine the amount of energy used and the relation to the House's abduction methods. I also wonder where the energy comes from - I could not teleport an entire space as it would require too much of my energy. Could it be a multi-stage teleportation process? Someone else talked about time magic - perhaps the location is frozen in time and then teleported in pieces.
I understand. I will not touch your items and I will leave your suite as I found it.
[ Rei's request is reasonable enough and while Linhardt does like exploring, he also likes not being kicked out of the room with the good bed and he has some self-control. Besides, he hates when people touch his things too. He leaves them like that for a reason... ]
Deliberately withholding in what manner? Sexually withholding, or is it possible to withhold one's essence from you even if you're engaging in erotic activities? Could I block you from sensing my essence?
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So yeah, let's start there. Between the two of us I'm sure we can get a working theory going at the very least, especially since you already practice teleportation magic. I do have a separate theory on where this place gets its energy. I'd rather run it by you in person. [he is a deeply paranoid person, if linhardt can't tell by now.]
Thanks.
The latter. It's very possible to withhold one's essence in one's bodily fluids. I haven't experienced this with anyone not from Klein, but I don't see why you couldn't, especially with your expertise in magic.
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I would be happy to show you how warp magic works if there are theories you want to test. And I would like to hear your theory. I understand that sometimes theories only make sense if you talk them out with another person - writing adds an additional layer of complexity and abstraction.
[ Linhardt would swear until his dying day that he does not participate in 'insipid social games', but he does. And one such way he is doing so is that if these messages are being read, they are now meeting in person due to logistic preferences, not due to a desire to conspire. The deniability is plausible. ]
I see. I'd like to practice that: Withholding information about my essence. Do you know if it would be possible to fake essence information? For example, could I convince you I was Olivine? Assuming blindfolding and steps were taken to ensure that other senses wouldn't give away the deception, of course.